The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with weary feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.– J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring
When I was thinking about how to explain the difference between on to and onto, this poem about travelling came to mind.
On to is about the journey.
Onto is about the destination.
Imagine that you have decided to take a journey on foot to a distant land. To get to your destination, you must reach the crossroads.
So you walk on to the crossroads.
This sentence is describing your journey to the crossroads. It could take you all day to get there, or it could take you five minutes. (Let’s go for all night and into the morning — it sounds suitably epic.)
Finally, you reach your destination and walk onto the crossroads.
At this point you are walking on top of the crossroads. You have arrived at a certain point.
You take the King’s Road, which winds through an ancient forest situated on the side of a steep hill.
Unfortunately, you are going in the uphill direction, so you need to start climbing instead of walking. Once you are partway up, you spot a giant tree that has fallen across the road at the very top of the hill.
You groan in irritation, but you continue to climb on to the tree.
This describes your journey to reach the tree.
Your legs are killing you when you finally get to the top of the hill. After a brief pause, you begin to climb onto the tree.
Thankfully it has lots of hand- and footholds, and you make it to the top without too much trouble. You have made it onto the tree. You have arrived at your destination.
As you sit on top of your giant tree-bench, you reward yourself with a second breakfast. As you munch away, you hear occasional birdsong floating down from the birds that have landed onto the branches of the tall trees. As you finish the last crumbs and decide to move on to the river, you suddenly become aware of the silence. When did the birds stop singing?
Uh oh. You had forgotten that monsters occasionally travel this way…
Bonus Word: Occasionally
Before ending our story, let’s look at the tricky word occasionally, which is a challenging word to spell. How can you remember it?
If you separate the base word and its suffix, you get occasion + ally.
On the rare occasion when you encounter a monster, it is good to have an ally with you. Luckily, you remembered to bring your magic ring on your forest journey, and you call your wolf spirit animal to your side.
So now let’s look at the word occasion. It’s made up of two parts as well: occa + sion. The -sion suffix is recognizable — it’s also used in tension, which you felt before you remembered your magic ring.
This leaves us with occa.
Which is perfect, because with your wolf at your side, you are going to be ok-kay. After all, wolves like seconds breakfasts, too. 😉
***
Have you ever been on a long journey?
Image of Crooked Forest, Nowe Czarnowo from Wikimedia Commons
(Shortly after writing this post, I saw this article about someone who doesn’t think onto is a word, and just had to share it here.)
This post is dedicated to everwalker and Rachel Small. Thanks for reading!
Stay tuned for tomorrow’s post, where I will pummel the pernicious letter P…
© Sue Archer at Doorway Between Worlds, 2015
we go
into, onto, unto
three to, two to, one to…
LikeLike
Hi, Richard! Thanks for stopping by my blog. I took a look over at yours and saw your recent post – it looks like you are channeling your fave author Dr. Seuss today. 🙂 Is this one of his, or your own creation?
LikeLiked by 1 person
Apart from the verse, the words are my own. For whatever they’re worth!
LikeLiked by 1 person
I enjoyed them, thanks!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Oops–I thought you were talking about the Sneetches! My silly brief comment was just me blurting out something fun.
LikeLiked by 1 person
No worries. Thanks for clarifying! 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Have a great weekend!
LikeLiked by 1 person
You too!
LikeLiked by 1 person
That’s a nifty way to explain the difference between on to and onto. I have to admit although I know the difference instinctively, I don’t think I’d be able to articulate it.
LikeLiked by 1 person
It came to me after staring at it for a while. 😉 This one was hard!
LikeLike
Thanks, Sue! Fantastic explanation of “onto” vs. “on to,” an issue that has baffled me many a time!
LikeLiked by 1 person
You’re welcome, Rachel! I’m happy you liked it.
LikeLike
Enjoyed a lot your little story – thanks! My brain captured all the tricks to remember “on to” & “onto”. Have I been on a journey? Based on the definition “traveling from one place to another, usually taking a rather long time”? yes, so many. On foot, in a car, a camper, a bus, etc…but none as challenging as the one of “The Fellowship of the Ring”. And preparing more….just a question of finding the time!
LikeLiked by 1 person
I don’t think any of us have gone on a journey as challenging as that one! Hope you find that time to travel soon. 🙂
LikeLike
Wonderful choice. I never really gave onto or on to much thought before.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thanks, Rhonda! I hadn’t either until I was asked about it. I’ve been getting such great requests from my readers.
LikeLike
Very nice explanation 🙂 I have been on the odd long journey, but never climbing onto giant trees and avoiding monsters 😉 If there were monsters I’d hurry on to the next town.
Tasha
Tasha’s Thinkings | Wittegen Press | FB3X (AC)
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thanks, Tasha! I think you’ve got the right idea there. 😉
LikeLike
Such great explanations and examples! On to vs. onto (and similarly, in to vs. into) have never troubled me, but it does remind me of a theory from my grammar professor in college, who suggested that some prepositions function like a part of the verb. “Walk on” would be a good example of this type of situation, where “walk” and “walk on” have different meanings, making the preposition function like a part of the verb (which also throws a bit of a wrench into the rule about not ending sentences with prepositions, which sparked the conversation in the first place). It was interesting discussion that I’m probably not explaining as well as the professor did, but thought I’d share it nonetheless. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thanks for bringing these to mind, Kaitlin! I know them as phrasal verbs – a verb plus a preposition that are combined together to form a new meaning, like your “walk on” or things like “see to” or “follow up.”
Sounds like your class had a great discussion. There’s been a lot of debate about ending sentences with prepositions – based on what I have learned, this is a stylistic preference rather than a true grammar rule, but it’s very ingrained!
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on this. I love discussing these types of things, as I’m sure you can tell. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
I do believe that was the term my professor used as well, “phrasal verbs.” I still don’t love ending sentences with prepositions, mostly because it still looks wrong, but it was very freeing to learn from that professor that it’s difficult to consider it a true rule dictacted by grammar.
I love talking about this kind of stuff, too, and have very much enjoyed reading about it every day here on your blog!
LikeLiked by 1 person
I’m glad you’ve enjoyed my posts. 🙂 I found it very freeing, too, when I started learning the difference between actual rules and style preferences. It’s nice to know that most of the time we are doing just fine with our writing! 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Yes! Whenever someone asks me to edit something for them, I always like to differentiate between style / consistency edits and actually grammatical / typo edits. Even though I like the logic and rigidity of grammar, I also love the prescriptive, “it is what it is” approach of linguistics…so I try to straddle a line between the two.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Sounds like the perfect balance to me, Kaitlin!
LikeLiked by 1 person
That’s a very interesting (and fun) way to explain the difference between on to and onto. 🙂 So many people who don’t know any better use one of those for everything.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thanks, Chrys! I quite enjoyed writing this one. 🙂
LikeLike
Ha, clicked your link to the “onto doesn’t exist” article and see the culprit is Simon Heffer. Enough said for me!
LikeLiked by 1 person
LOL. I hadn’t heard of Simon before this article, but it sounds like he is notorious. 🙂
LikeLike
Let’s just say not one of my favourite journalists.
LikeLiked by 1 person
“Onto” also has a particular definition in mathematics. The modern idea of what a function is is to say that it’s a rule which matches things that are in one set, called the “domain”, to things that are in another set, called the “range”. If the rule is such that every single thing inside the range is the match of at least one thing in the domain, then the function is called “onto”.
This can be confusing for people learning the lingo, since whether a function is onto depends on the domain, and the rule, and the range, all together. For example, if the domain is “all the numbers from -1 to 1”, and the range is “all the numbers from -1 to 1”, then the function “match a number in the domain to its square in the range” (for example, 0 and 0, or 1/2 and 1/4, or -1 and 1) is not onto, because there’s nothing that gets matched to -1, for an example, or to -1/2 or so. But if the domain is “all the numbers from -1 to 1”, and the range is “all the numbers from 0 to 1”, then the same rule about matching a number in the domain to its square in the range does make the function “onto”, because there’s nothing in the range that doesn’t get matched to at least once.
LikeLiked by 1 person
This is really great, Joseph! What you described brought up memories of learning domains and ranges in school math class long ago, but I don’t recall learning onto. (I may have, but if so it’s been lost in the mists of time.) I find that math tends to use language in quite a different way from other contexts, and it’s fascinating. Thanks so much for sharing this explanation! 🙂
LikeLike
There are some mathematics books that avoid using “onto” — and for that matter “into”, which is when a function matches things in the domain to some but not all the things in the range — in favor of “surjective” (and “injective”). I admit a little preference for the shorter words. I feel like onto and into are a bit more suggestive about what the difference in their meaning is.
LikeLike
I’m with you there. I’m all for simple and informative words to describe things, especially things like math that many people find intimidating.
LikeLike
I never thought about the difference between on to and onto. Thanks for the lesson.
~Patricia Lynne aka Patricia Josephine~
Member of C. Lee’s Muffin Commando Squad
Story Dam
Patricia Lynne, Indie Author
LikeLiked by 1 person
You’re welcome! Thanks for reading and commenting, I really appreciate it.
LikeLike
Thanks so much for the explanation. That was a tricky one for me.
While, as for occasionally, that’s easy, because it’s very similar to Italian 🙂
And hay, I recognised Tolkien’s poem from the first line. Just saying…
LikeLiked by 1 person
Ah, a fellow Tolkien fan! Excellent! 🙂
And that’s great that occasionally is similar to Italian. At least there’s one word out there that won’t be challenging to me if I ever get around to learning Italian. 😉
LikeLike
I’ve travelled to many distant placed on airplanes, but the journeys that feel the longest to me are road trips. I drove with my family up to the New Liskeard area when I was younger, and I’ve been to New Hampshire twice now. That’s quite a journey from Hamilton!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Ah, a fellow Canadian! Welcome to my blog, Chris. 🙂 I really appreciate you stopping by and commenting. New Hampshire is quite a trip. I’ve been on a lot of road trips, too, and they definitely felt long, especially when I was younger. 🙂 I’ve been around some of Quebec and the eastern provinces by car. Once my family took a driving trip through California over several days, and that was definitely a long ride! (Well worthwhile, though.)
LikeLike
I read the first line, and the song with those words from the animated version of The Hobbit from 1977 started playing in my head. Love that movie. Loved your story, too, particularly the last line. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Hi, Lori! Hope you are surviving A to Z without too much stress. I have vague memories of that movie, but they’ve been overridden of late by the Peter Jackson version of that world. I’m so happy you enjoyed that last line. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
I would have liked to have been better prepared, but I’ll get there. Not too many days left. 🙂 I just wish I had more time for visiting.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Me, too! I’m finding it challenging to balance it all. I suspect I’ll be doing more visiting once the month is over.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Yes, that’s what I’m planning, too.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Wow, this was excellent! I hope you leave these posts up. They will be so helpful if you do leave them up. I noticed a word in this post that can mean two things and also sounds different. I used it in one of my recent poems, and worried that it might be misunderstood. The word is “winds”.
I intended it to be pronounced like this:
“When she winds her wrist watch it works better.”
Not like this:
“The winds of change are blowing again.”
LikeLiked by 1 person
Oh, I will definitely be keeping these posts – in fact, I am thinking of doing more as a regular blog feature when A to Z is over. I’ve started a “Rogue Words Gallery” page on my blog where I’m collecting all of the post links together. So glad you like them!
I’ve seen your poem on tiger lilies with the word “winds,” and I think it works very nicely!
LikeLiked by 1 person
If it were me, for “on to” I would just cut out “on”… which is what I guess most Americans would do… the example with the tree would be hard to understand if spoken. This one is definitely one of your trickier posts this month!
LikeLiked by 1 person
But if we cut out ‘on,’ it would be too easy, Alex! 😉 When I think about it, I would just say ‘walk to the tree’ as a basic statement. But if I wanted to imply effort over time, then I would say ‘walk on to the tree’ to show it as a continuing journey.
I think I’d only do that in writing, though. 🙂 You’re right about it being elaborate for speech!
LikeLiked by 1 person